How will tomorrow’s cities be designed and planned in the face of energy, health and social issues? Cécile Maisonneuve, President of the think tank La Fabrique de la Cité, talks with Carlos Moreno, a specialist in Human Smart Cities and intelligent control of complex systems, to rethink proximity and inclusion in city centres alongside journalists Thierry Guerrier and David Abittan. Together, they discuss the idea of a ‘15-minute city’ for better quality of life and the need for increasingly accessible transportation to overcome social exclusion.